Thank you Dev, you put it far more eloquently than me.

I don't see how the tigers got played or even if they did they seemed unfazed by it and i think adam gave sharks the naked island law to take their mind off things and it worked up til then it seemed pretty quiet over on tigers he said he felt comfy and basically that they were fine as they were so just have a day of anachy ,at the beach party he said they were fun their games were inventive so why do producers not show it its like they have to show tigers to not do fun yet adam seemed genuine enough to me besides which you don't have to be charging around 24/7 to enjoy your self tigers seem to have that group banter which appeals to me

I'm also in agreement with what you said dontchopsuey about the fun fun fun thing seeming a little contrived and its only 4 the new arrivals sake yet when there's no newbie's 2 work on some of them don't give each other the time of day ,Like i said in another thread the tigers seem 2 have the laid back banter kinda fun which seems more genuine 2 me still think if it weren't 4 Greg ,Adam would've gone 4 tigers but i could be wrong he did say he was such a laid back person but seemed overwhelmed on sharks with everyone in his face 2 start with and all Lois could do was bitch about him ,so considerite Lois [NOT]

Some of the Tigers were certainly very understanding of the situation Greg was in (Silkie for example) but others not so much Danny and Sonny in particular and we didnt see much of the others so no idea how they reacted to the whole situation.
Sonny saying that he dosent get what Greg was moaning about Tigers were in the lead and if he had any sense and added up the numbers he would set up camp on TIger island is about the least understanding thing I heard all episode.

The problem Tigers encounterd from what I could see is that they underestimated how close the Sharks are. They are always banging on about how they are "the family" tribe and I think it was Tom last week that describe Sharks as a mob. Just because the Sharks ways are different to theirs and they have a different dynamic in their team dosent make them any less close than Tigers, they are just different. So when Greg reacted so strongly to being taken away from Sharks, Tigers were completely wrong footed.


They expected taking Greg to break the Sharks moral, but it didnt.
They thought that Greg, because they liked him and he is a nice guy would just accept being on Tigers and be the Greg they all loved. But he didnt. And why should he? If he had nominated fair enough he should have shut up and got on with things, if it had been a punishment and he had voluntered to go then agian fair enough he should have just made do.
But he was taken there by the Tigers and he had no say in the matter. He was therefore within in his rights to react to the sittuation however the hell he wanted and Tigers shouldnt have expected anything else.

I thought it was brilliant the way Sharks got into the spirt of Adam's island law. I think this was one of the weeks were the new arrival was a little torn. I think the "Greg factor" did play a big role in his decision. But Adam kept going on about how bowled over he was by how close Sharks were and how many "genuine" friendships they had formed, he didnt wax quite as lyrical about Tigers but did seem to enjoy his time there. So I dont think he will have been too dissapointed to have chosen Sharks.

I thought the tigers were a little naive with Greg but I can see where they were coming from. They took a punt and it back fired, as he said what did they expect from him? I loved Greg coming over all Machiavellian and doing everything he could to get back to the Sharks. I can understand why they took Greg but they underestimated the Sharks big time. If they could have won Adam and gotten Maz over there as well they might have pulled it off. 

I don’t think Adam was a tiger at all, I think he registered what was going on but I got the feeling he was going to pick who he wanted regardless. I think the one crucial thing Greg did was be totally up front with Adam about what he was doing. He wasn’t sucking up to him, none of the sharks were, they basically told him straight up what the situation was and what they wanted to happen. They also seemed to make the effort to get to know Adam despite what was going on and they didn't let losing Greg drag them down. I also think they proved what Adam was saying about the bonds they'd formed with the light show for Greg, that was really clever.   

The funniest thing was the Sharks dancing around that camp fire and then the cut away to Greg watching the game of backgammon. The whole episode implied he was going to pick the Sharks anyway because whatever fun he had on the Tigers was barely shown. The law for the Sharks was a hundred times better than what he gave the tigers and the sharks threw themselves into it even turning up to the beach party in those outfits.

I think any one person in Greg’s position would have done the same thing and it was hardly dishonourable. What would you expect he was dragged to an island he didn’t want to live on and they were celebrating being in the lead in front of him. I don’t think you can condemn that behaviour when both islands have been pretty tactical. It’s a competition; it’s what they’re expected to do. Any one of the tigers would have rightly done the same if they’d been picked to go over to the Sharks when they didn’t want to. I thought the tigers were also pretty understanding to the position Greg was in and realised their mistake and were probably glad he went back. They seemed to handle it really well in the end.

Yes Phoenix, agree

Why do they always try to make out that the Sharks are all fun, fun, fun and the Tigers are so booooooor(yawn)rrring.

If they were that bad they would get no new arrivals and no one would want to stay. It was the same last year too, and then the Hawks came and flew to the Tiger island.

i think this whole sharks are close group is a load of cr*p. andrew seems to not get on with half his tribe then someone tells him just lie to new arrivals so we win the money and then he said the game. they are also a bitch group

I had a hard time getting into this season when it started but gave it a chance and it picked up a little so I continued to watch but this episode for me was just painful.  It wasn't interesting, it wasn't endearing, it wasn't fun or funny.  In fact, I had to mute the sound or turn away a few times just so my eyes didn't permanently roll into the back of my head.  The manipulation of the producers and the contestants is at an all time high from previous seasons and I just don't find it entertaining.  I don't enjoy watching people cry, winge and moan on a constant basis.  If I wanted that I would just hang out with my sister more.  I'll watch the next episode and see if it gets better again but if it's anything like this episode then I'm just going to stop watching it altogether, it's just not worth it.