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Quote from: ellabell on Mar 29, 2009, 15:49
most new arrivals get treated like royalty and she was just unlucky
It kind of makes sense, if you try not to think about it. The other new arrivals get treated like royalty. She IS royalty and therefore she doesn't.
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Apr 3, 2009, 01:31 »
I felt quite sorry for Bene, and it was obvious that Kevin was going to go for Sharks and cos the Tigers didnt try with Bene, she would have been unable to convince him that it was the better island.
In all honesty, because of his actions and not going to Tigers when he did, he should have been penalised and the decision should have been Bene's and hers alone. He acted like a prat and still got what he wanted.
Poor Bene, bless her
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Thats exactly the point i've been trying to put across if it wasn't for that idiot Kevin acting like a spoilt child by not going over to see tigers it automatically put her in a vulnerable position but what did annoy me about her was she seemed to think Kevin was within his rights not to go over which actually annoys me ,ok while both tribes have to impress newbies effort is a two way thing and if i'd have been her i'd have dragged him over she seemed to think it was funny to start with and i think thats what upset some of the tigers i would have felt gutted and annoyed if i was a tiger myself and Liams tears did seem more heartfelt for me it was a bad thing to do it wasn't fair on tigers or Bene
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Quote from: lioness on Apr 4, 2009, 02:49
Thats exactly the point i've been trying to put across if it wasn't for that idiot Kevin acting like a spoilt child by not going over to see tigers it automatically put her in a vulnerable position but what did annoy me about her was she seemed to think Kevin was within his rights not to go over which actually annoys me ,ok while both tribes have to impress newbies effort is a two way thing and if i'd have been her i'd have dragged him over she seemed to think it was funny to start with and i think thats what upset some of the tigers i would have felt gutted and annoyed if i was a tiger myself and Liams tears did seem more heartfelt for me it was a bad thing to do it wasn't fair on tigers or Bene
I agree somewhat. I do think she should have made Kevin go over to the tigers with her, it's not like she is quiet and shy and afraid to speak her mind. By letting him stay on Shark Island she was pretty much telling the tigers that they were going to choose the sharks. How could they not? They have to make a joint decision and if one of them never even steps foot on Tiger Island than that just shows that there is no chance they will get choosen. So why should the tigers pull out all the song and dance they do to try and win new arrivals when they had basically 0% chance of getting them and they were hurt, offended and confused. It really was a slap in the face.
So for Bene to say that she should have been treated better because she came over doesn't really matter because by allowing Kevin to stay on sharks she was pretty much agreeing that they would be choosing Sharks. I don't think she is completely to blame obviously but I don't think she is as much of a victim in this situation as she wanted people to believe.
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Apr 5, 2009, 15:16 »
i think shes a great charter for sharks but hasnt been giving the airtime to shine!
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Apr 5, 2009, 17:03 »
"by allowing Kevin to stay on Sharks"
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She dosent have any authority to make Kevin do anything, it was his choice. Short of slinging him over her shoulder and carrying him onto the boat, there was nothig she could do. It was some of the Tigers choice to welcome Kevin and Bene and some of the Tigers choice to make both Kevin and Bene feel unwelcome. It isnt Tigers fault that Kevin did what he did, how they handled the sittuaiton is their responsiblty and theirs alone.
Bene didnt desserve that treatment and she didnt cause it.
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Apr 6, 2009, 02:15 »
nobody is saying that Bene deserved to be treat unfairly but on the other hand she was obviously in agreement with what Kevin did and correction she's a feisty girl who when she wants something done ,voices her opinion so she has got a tongue in her head and although its a shame she got caught in the crossfire it was because of kevins decision not to go over i agree with coconut it was a kick in the teeth 4 tigers how did they expect them 2 react it would be interesting 2 see how sharks reacted if it happened 2 them
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Apr 6, 2009, 02:41 »
Excellent point there, Lioness....How would Sharks have reacted if it happened to them?
Not like the Tigers eh? Yeah....alright, i will believe you
I think its worse that they defended Kevin's decision to stay and cheered him! They should have made him go not convince him to stay, they all played a part and the Tigers were made to be the bad guys.
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Quote from: dontchopsuey on Apr 6, 2009, 02:41
Excellent point there, Lioness....How would Sharks have reacted if it happened to them?
Not like the Tigers eh? Yeah....alright, i will believe you
I think its worse that they defended Kevin's decision to stay and cheered him! They should have made him go not convince him to stay, they all played a part and the Tigers were made to be the bad guys.
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the Sharks did not cheer his decision, because I remember the expresion on Xanthi's face read something like "is he off his f****** chump?" quite a few off them seemed gob smacked actually, and Greg even tried to get him to change his mind, pointing out that as well as he got on on Sharks, he could make even better friendships on Tigers.
Kevin and Kevin alone is responsible for his decision not Bene, not the producers and not Sharks.
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Tigers and Tigers alone are responsible for how they reacted to his decision no matter what excuses their supporters dream up.
We will never know how Sharks would have reacted. There was a good mixture of reactions amongst Tigers most reacted honourbly a minority didnt.
But I suppose we could use the Sharks reaction to Silkie and Tom's scheme way back as a referenace point. What Tom and Silkie did was imo worse (it was just vandalism and ridiculolsy immature) the Sharks still made them feel welcome on their island despite knowing they were/had been double crossed. The next week the ones that still had a problem were honest about it when Silkie swam over to Sharks, but Andrew was unnecesairly mean about it.
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Apr 6, 2009, 17:01 »
she was so annoying i didn't watch the rest of that episode...
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sharks were chanting and cheering ,yes greg did try 2 talk him round nobody else did so we're not dreaming anything up ,the wk when silkie and tom did sabotage maz supposedly overheard them plotting so decided 2 play along [knowledge is power after all ]and they pretended 2 be nice til a wk later at least the few tigers who were upset didn't try 2 pretend otherwise the other tigers who made an effort fair play but even i would've been annoyed and don't know if i'd be that fussed about making a big effort when someone clearly didn't wanna be there i agree that the tigers got upset ,had their noses rubbed in it yet were made 2 look the bad guys well at least they weren't 2 faced or false about it thats how i see it and liam did apologise kevin didn't that is ignorance in my book
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Quote from: Coconut on Apr 5, 2009, 05:25
They have to make a joint decision and if one of them never even steps foot on Tiger Island than that just shows that there is no chance they will get choosen.
Thats a really good point.
I dont agree that it was benes responsibility to bring Kevin over though. I think his decision to stay was selfish as it implied he had 100% made his decision and so ultimately Bene would end up having to go along with it.
Though in fairness I'm sure he didn't realise the messages he was sending by his behaviour. I think he was naive and didnt realise his way of sucking up to the sharks was going to piss off so many people and mess things up for Bene so badly.
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Quote from: lioness on Apr 7, 2009, 03:18
sharks were chanting and cheering ,yes greg did try 2 talk him round nobody else did so we're not dreaming anything up ,the wk when silkie and tom did sabotage maz supposedly overheard them plotting so decided 2 play along [knowledge is power after all ]and they pretended 2 be nice til a wk later at least the few tigers who were upset didn't try 2 pretend otherwise the other tigers who made an effort fair play but even i would've been annoyed and don't know if i'd be that fussed about making a big effort when someone clearly didn't wanna be there i agree that the tigers got upset ,had their noses rubbed in it yet were made 2 look the bad guys well at least they weren't 2 faced or false about it thats how i see it and liam did apologise kevin didn't that is ignorance in my book
You really dont like Sharks do you lioness?
My point was when Kevin made his announcment a good few of the Sharks were cheering him on however a number (including Xanthi Nadejah Rosie ) looked completly gobsmacked (Xanthi's face was a picture) so to say "they" defended his decison and cheered him isnt fair or accurate, esepcially given that the "manipulative bully" Greg tried to talk him into going to Tigers.
Apart from anything else so what if they were cheering him? its a game a new arrival had just practicaly guaranted them his place. They didnt ask him to stay (as far as I know...), it wasnt tactics on their part, but it gave them an advantage.
Both tribes are groups of individuals, with their own minds and opinions. To blanket all Sharks as being the same because of how a few act is ridiculous.
As is doing the same with Tigers. The vast majority of Tigers treated Bene and Kevin with respect and did themselves proud a minority (Marcus, Sonny and Liam) didnt. There actions do not mean the Tigers arent an honourable tribe, infact the response of Silkie and Jack in particular shows there is a lot of honour in Tiger camp. To Liam's credit he knew he was in the wrong and had the balls to appologise, for which he deserves a lot of respect.
How do you know Kevin didnt appologise? He seemed pretty contrite to me.
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I don't hate the sharks [well maybe the odd 1 or 2 ] and i did say myself that greg was the one who should go over which i did give him credit for at that time as i've got to give credit when and where it's due and i also said that it was liam who took it the most personal which i think rubbed off on sonny and markus the three of them are tight friends y'know if one's upset then ultimitely so is the other which made a bad situation worse i'm so glad liam redeemed himself by apologising now maybe kevin may have apologised and we never saw it but i saw nothing in his actions to suggest any regret i didn't once see him say poor bene if i just came over with her there wouldn't be this atmosphere but then again i never saw her say the same whereas i'd have told him his stupidness had just caused upset to me big time and sorry but he was totally selfish by doing that naive or not there are feelings of others not a fan of kevin and not even sure about her tbh
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